The Democrats may have more people with advanced degrees but I would put money that Republican voters would win any group intelligence test against Democrats.
Good comeback Wiz, but seriously which party would be OK with a literacy test (even one that took into account disparties in education spending) and which would cry bloody murder?
Trey, I'll take your money. You'd have a chance if you could trim off three Southern Red States but even with the abject idiocy of the Democratic party, you can't win with Mississippi.
You are right that Democrats would object to a literacy test. . . and later learn that such tests would have given them the election.
I doubt very much that either of us would be pleased with the intelligence test of the electorate, because the culpability for the goat fuck gangbang our country is in now gets passed around.
Has GOP hastened this slide? Yes.
Has the Democratic Party allowed this to happen, or even positioned us at the top of the hill in its shortsightedness? Yes.
The fact of the matter is that, on an issue like energy, we saw this giant gas truck coming for 30+ years, and we did nothing to get out of the way. WE. DID. NOTHING.
The problem, as I see it, is not a party politics perse, but the ideologies constructed as a rationalization for policies, and, in this regard, the red meat of the GOP lose on its delusions, with its embrace of climate change deniers, NeoCon imperialist fantasy, and the flintstones theology folks.
When I made that flippant comment about Bush, I was trying to make a larger point: Bush, arguably, is the most crooked, negligent president in our history, and his stupidity, which is now dangerous, constitutes malfeasance, and it is only in colossal ideological construct that makes it anything other than that.
Wiz, we can bitch and moan all we want about how poorly informed the average citizen is but it won't change the situation that there really isn't much compelling motivation for said citizen to set aside his private concerns and become well-versed in all the different political analyses. Isn't that the basic tradeoff of democracy: you get the political stability that comes with allowing everybody at least some say-so but you have to accept that the political discussions will all be highly superficial?
And maybe its just because the debate about off-shore drilling seems to be electorally favoring my Republican party, but I actually find the debate better than most at setting off the basic philosophical differences between the parties. To my eyes, the Dems come off looking a little elitist for trying to protect the pristine sceneries and environments that at least 90% of the electorate will never experience (even if the price reductions in gas are probably mostly symbolic).
The Democrats may have more people with advanced degrees but I would put money that Republican voters would win any group intelligence test against Democrats.
ReplyDeleteTrey
Really?
ReplyDeleteThen why'd you support George Bush?
Good comeback Wiz, but seriously which party would be OK with a literacy test (even one that took into account disparties in education spending) and which would cry bloody murder?
ReplyDeleteTrey
Trey, I'll take your money. You'd have a chance if you could trim off three Southern Red States but even with the abject idiocy of the Democratic party, you can't win with Mississippi.
ReplyDeleteYou are right that Democrats would object to a literacy test. . . and later learn that such tests would have given them the election.
Okay Trey, all kidding aside...
ReplyDeleteI doubt very much that either of us would be pleased with the intelligence test of the electorate, because the culpability for the goat fuck gangbang our country is in now gets passed around.
Has GOP hastened this slide? Yes.
Has the Democratic Party allowed this to happen, or even positioned us at the top of the hill in its shortsightedness? Yes.
The fact of the matter is that, on an issue like energy, we saw this giant gas truck coming for 30+ years, and we did nothing to get out of the way. WE. DID. NOTHING.
The problem, as I see it, is not a party politics perse, but the ideologies constructed as a rationalization for policies, and, in this regard, the red meat of the GOP lose on its delusions, with its embrace of climate change deniers, NeoCon imperialist fantasy, and the flintstones theology folks.
When I made that flippant comment about Bush, I was trying to make a larger point: Bush, arguably, is the most crooked, negligent president in our history, and his stupidity, which is now dangerous, constitutes malfeasance, and it is only in colossal ideological construct that makes it anything other than that.
Wiz, we can bitch and moan all we want about how poorly informed the average citizen is but it won't change the situation that there really isn't much compelling motivation for said citizen to set aside his private concerns and become well-versed in all the different political analyses. Isn't that the basic tradeoff of democracy: you get the political stability that comes with allowing everybody at least some say-so but you have to accept that the political discussions will all be highly superficial?
ReplyDeleteAnd maybe its just because the debate about off-shore drilling seems to be electorally favoring my Republican party, but I actually find the debate better than most at setting off the basic philosophical differences between the parties. To my eyes, the Dems come off looking a little elitist for trying to protect the pristine sceneries and environments that at least 90% of the electorate will never experience (even if the price reductions in gas are probably mostly symbolic).
Trey